Another cool morning, this time out in Manorville for the Early Birds. North route, for a change. It was a fast ride but I was hanging comfortably for 95% of the ride. Got dropped on the hill on Rt. 51 and just could not jump back on to the wheel. Then, the wind was a factor and I watched the group slowly pull away, even when I was doing 27-28 on the flats.
A hard ride, but it felt good and I really didn't "blow up", just couldn't hold the wheel when the attack went. Well, there is always next week!
Hey, do you have any idea how much power they in front put or can put in there bikes at max... I have no clue, I felt really good, but hit somehow a wall and could not prevent being gapped almost at the top and going into the wind :-(
ReplyDeleteNot even close to my HR max at that point at all... I guess need to hit the gym even more this winter.
-PyZ
I just checked it out in detail, HR=175 at the point of trouble...:
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I can do a HR absolute max of 191bpm, as I know just recently from the last weekend Cross race. And maintain an average of 183 for an hour or so... must be missing strength so :-(
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ReplyDeleteLike you said, I think it is a matter of strength to turn the pedals into a strong wind uphill. We have done enough rides together so I know you are a strong climber! I don't know about watts (power) for the guys at the front but I know many of them are strong racers and are very good at putting in a burst of high power. For me, I think it is a matter of power-to-weight ratio. ;-}
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ReplyDeleteYeaahhh, some number of 5.8W/kg or more like Lance (or as recommended for the "Le Tour") would do it :-)
ReplyDeleteYou can estimate this without a power meter on a good (slow moving, so aerodynamics and wind is no issue) long climb of about one mile yourself:
Try to ride at a constant effort you can maintain for a longer while climbing, then all you need to know is the time, the total elevation gain and your total weight (you and bike).
your Watts/kg is then simply:
( total weight [kg] * 9.81 [N/kg] ) * elevation gain [m] / time [s] / your weight [kg]
I tried that once a while ago and came out around 3.6:
81kg * 9.81N/kg * 59.3m / 195s / 66kg = 3.66
... was after the We nite hill ride early in the season, so I was not "fresh"...
:-)